Do Open Carriers ruin it for us all?

Do Open Carriers ruin it for us all?

I have found in the years I have been involved in the firearms and 2nd Amendment community that often times gun owners are their own worst enemy.

From that statement you might assume that I mean open carriers metaphorically shoot themselves in the foot because they make waves.  Unless you are an open carrier, then you might assume that I mean that close minded concealed carry only folk are causing a fracture in the firearms community.

It should be no surprise to those who subscribe to this site and those who know me personally where I fall in the OC vs CC debate.  Back in July I penned an article entitled:  Open Carry Should Not Only Be Legal, But Encouraged.

Of course, open carrying is back in the news because Starbucks CEO Howard Shultz recently came out saying that guns are no longer welcome at the coffee shops.  The vitriol I see from gun owners who hate the idea of open carrying is as prevalent and heated, if not moreso, than that coming from gun controllers.

So did open carrying cause this move?

Yes and no.  I never attended a “Starbucks Appreciation Day”, gun on hip.  I just simply went to Starbucks on occasion with my gun on my hip and ordered my Chai Tea Latte, drank it, then left.

So did I and the tens of thousand other open carriers force Starbucks to quasi-change their policy? (remember Starbucks isn’t banning guns, just telling you they aren’t welcome but won’t kick you out).

Doubtful.  What did it, were the big to-do’s about it.  The pomp and ceremony of making a big deal out of it.  Which of course caused the gun controllers to try and match it.  They failed of course, but still got media coverage for their anemic efforts because that’s the way the press works.

So yes, the in your face, i’m armed and i’m proud, pushing the envelope attitude of some open carriers probably made Howard Shultz’s left coast hippie friends push for him to do something and so he did.

Kinda blew up in the OCers’ faces.

Fortunately (sarcasm) we have the CC-only crowd waiting in the wings to dog pile on and fracture those who support the 2nd Amendment.

It’s funny, as I started writing this article I was fully prepared to side against the in-your-face OC activists.  I open carry because I prefer it, because I am against the need to have a permit for a Constitutional right, and I believe in passive activism.

Yet, the more I thought about it the more I realized that sometimes you need to push the envelope.  You need to make some noise and some waves and push some buttons.

For those hating on the OCer’s for doing so I imagine them as the southern blacks who 50 some years ago decried Rosa Parks and Martin Luther King Jr as uppity and were happy at the back of the bus.

Sometimes. in the course of demanding what is right you have to make noise in order to be heard.

Was Starbucks the right venue to hold this proxy war between Pro-Gun and Anti-Liberty parties?  Probably not.  But i’m not gonna cut down those willing to be vocal because it rocks the boat a little.

Speaking of Starbucks, maybe neutrality isn’t good enough.  Welcome gun owners and accept our money, ban us and lose our business…but make a choice.

So do Open Carriers ruin it for us all?  I guess…the same way Rosa Parks ruined riding the bus.



8 responses »

  1. I both OC and CC. I prefer that everyone be allowed to legally carry concealed without having to have a stupid “license”. I wouldn’t take a side on this – but as pointed out in the article, neutrality isn’t really good…. BUT let’s look at it from a different point of view for a moment.

    The biggest gripe most people have about Gays isn’t that they are gay, or they go “Against God” or any of that stuff. It’s the loud mouths who try to (pardon the poor metaphor) “shove it down our throats”. If they just do whatever they do, and keep it out of everyone’s faces and stop TRYING to force us to ‘accept things’ we don’t necessarily wish to accept as “normal” then fine.

    Gun owners like us face the same problem… with one tiny exception. We have the RIGHT to Keep and bear arms… any arms, own them where we want, carry when we wish, or not carry as we wish – but we have an absolute right to be able to defend ourselves, our families, friends and innocent bystanders and the anti-gun crowd have forced the “in your face” attitude on us. We didn’t force it on them.

    When it comes down to it… I ride the line on the OC/CC – I can do either where I live (because I CAN). I don’t “NEED” an AR15, but I have one. I don’t NEED a shotgun, but I have one. I don’t NEED multiple, many side arms of all sorts, but I HAVE them.

    Because… frankly, I can.

  2. Ridin the bus is a very good example….ya gotta get ‘off the fence’…either you are with us or agin us……..and as this police state develops….having a cup of java..with or without your weapon….will be the least of your ‘hard’ choices… in ‘ do I squeeze or not.’……….so for now enjoy your java where ever you decide to….

  3. I think there are basically two camps of open carriers: One prefers to walk into a place such as Starbucks wearing a handgun on hip with a friendly smile to order and enjoy a cup of coffee and then quietly leave with a smile. The other swaggers in with an AR, an AK or a shotgun for a coffee just because they can.

    I fall into the former camp and would agree that the other camp has hurt our cause.

    • I find myself in the same camp Rob. But i wonder…just because they hurt our cause doesn’t mean they don’t help it. Think of it like the far left. You have the firebombers who are so out of touch and loony that regular rights infringing lefties seem almost tame by comparison.

      Maybe our firebombers get the conversation out there. And we come across as the common sense gun owners that the gun grabbers love to talk about yet never point out. Using their own game against them…muwhahahaha.

    • Mike, that is a phenomenal idea. With Starbucks basically telling gun owners they can take their macchiato’s up their derriere’s there is a vacuum for all these gun owners who need their caffeine hold the pompous assitude.

      I feel that the market will provide.

  4. I don’t carry if a person CC or OP as long as they carry. The gun grabbers would love nothing more than to divide us. I refuse to let that happen even though I am a staunch CC person.

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